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Super Wabbit

Hey everyone. I was wondering if anyone would like to attend some BF4 training as instructed by yours truly? I can spin up a cheap private server to give us a nice quiet place to learn. I've listed a whole bunch of topics below but I'd like to tailor it to your interests. You guys tell me what the priority should be or just simply what you're most interested in. We can do them all in one sitting or break it up into smaller sessions, whatever you'd like, just let me know what you'd like to do. Also, feel free to suggest any topics I forgot to list.

Topics under consideration.
Infantry Combat:

Demonstrate the different spotting mechanisms and how Field Upgrades can impact spotting.
Effectively utilizing cover and concealment
Terminology: Slow Peek, ADS, Hip Fire, Pre-fire, Shading, Burn
Effective communication: how to report contacts, acknowledging contact calls
When to Run & Gun vs When to Peek
Show the differences in Tap Fire, Burst Fire, and Mag Dump
Weapon How-to's: XM-25, SRAW and Javelin Stacking (if it still works)
Understanding the different sounds in-game or "How to act like a wall/radar hacker"
Basic Squad Movement - how to stick with the squad and how to call out contacts using relative positions.
Levolutions!

Ground Vehicle Combat:

Pillaring - using cover while in a vehicle.
Main Gun and Secondary loadout considerations.
Counter Measure guide.

Air Vehicle Combat;

Minimum Radius Turn
3rd person flying
Using JDAMS...
Combating APS

One of the cool things about using a private server is that we can give players a large health pool and reduce weapon damage. This allows us to get nice and dirty by shooting each other without the interruption of having to respawn.

Also, if you're not interested, or think I would suck as a teacher, just say so! No hard feelings. I am not a pro-player by any means so my ego is as easily bruised.

Dynamite Dan · Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject:

This is why I fucking love it here!!

I'm always wanting to learn better techniques, I must admit, I am getting a bit frustrated with the early server seed domination maps as pure infantry matches I struggle with, i always look forward to getting onto some armour.

I could use some tips on, the highlighted ones

Demonstrate the different spotting mechanisms and how Field Upgrades can impact spotting.
Effectively utilizing cover and concealment
Terminology: Slow Peek, ADS, Hip Fire, Pre-fire, Shading, Burn
Effective communication: how to report contacts, acknowledging contact calls
When to Run & Gun vs When to Peek
Show the differences in Tap Fire, Burst Fire, and Mag Dump
Weapon How-to's: XM-25, SRAW and Javelin Stacking (if it still works)
Understanding the different sounds in-game or "How to act like a wall/radar hacker"
Basic Squad Movement - how to stick with the squad and how to call out contacts using relative positions.

NTolerance · Administrator Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 1044

This is a good idea.

Kapak · Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:19 pm Post subject:

I would very much like a "tricks" and "what to know" sort of training. Like some ways to get around maps, to infiltrate bases or how to deal with certain vehicles.
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[DC]ClavisApocalypticae · Deputy Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1007

Oh you KNOW I'm in!

Obviously, my infantry game has some glaring deficiencies, but I'd also be down for beefing up my armor game, too. In DC, an Abrams was like a second skin to me....in BF4, I'm terrified of being in armored vehicles. From c & c to aiming, nothing feels quite right yet.

If there's anything I can do to help get this rolling, aside from just showing up, please let me know and consider it done.
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ProfessorZ · Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:42 pm Post subject:

I'd appreciate this as well!
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NTolerance · Administrator Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 1044

How to XM25

Peeking and cover

More peeking and cover

Super Wabbit · Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject:

Added Levolutions to the list because apparently even players (NT) who have 500 hours don't' know how to play the game.

[DC]ClavisApocalypticae · Deputy Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1007

3rdRcn · Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:46 am Post subject:

I would be in on this, please give me a few days advanced notice so I can clear some time, Mondays and Wed. nights are a no go for sure.

I need everything on the list.

I apologize in advance guys for not being able to get on and play more but life seems to keep getting in my way. I am diligently trying to figure out some nights to commit to coming and playing with you guys cause it's a ton of fun and I really enjoy the patience you guys show with us newbs.

Super Wabbit · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:01 pm Post subject:

Alright listen up you girls, and 3rd...

To accommodate as many people as possible I'd like to offer 2 identical training sessions.
I've created a Doodle to help us determine when is the best time for most people. Fill in your player name and check the times you're available:

http://doodle.com/v6mkzuaydk8g7bpd

If there are one or two of you that can't make any of these dates and times let me know and we'll work it out. For those of you who are not in the Eastern Time zone, let me know if there are better times for you and we'll accommodate as needed.

Agenda:

For our first try at these training events I'd like to stick to infantry only combat. We'll get into ground and air vehicles in later classes if this works out.

Infantry Combat:

Demonstrate the different spotting mechanisms and how Field Upgrades can impact spotting.
1. Q Spot = 3D spot and placement on minimap
2. Visual Spot = placement on minimap only
3. Audio Spot = when you fire an unsuppressed weapon you will briefly show up on the minimap
Effectively utilizing cover and concealment. Includes player movement throughout the map.
1. Always give yourself an "Out"
2. Concealment does not equal cover - bullets can penetrate some materials.
3. Concealment - turn off your laser or light when you're hiding in a bush!
4. Shading - using nearby cover (rocks, walls etc) to shield you from attack.
Understanding the different sounds in-game or "How to act like a wall/radar hacker"
1. Footsteps.
2. Enemy players yelling when teammates are killed or they deploy health or ammo.
3. Glass breaking
Terminology:
1. ADS = Aim Down Sights.
2. Slow Peek = ADS while moving out of cover.
3. Hip Fire = firing without ADS.
4. Pre-fire = Firing before you or your target is exposed from cover.
5. Burn = Being inside a flag radius. "On Burn" = means you are in flag radius.
Effective communication: how to report contacts, acknowledging contact calls. We don't have a standard system for calling contacts but we generally want to convey the following things:
1. How many contacts do you see?
2. What type of contact do you see? Infantry, Tank, LAV, Helicopter etc.
3. Where do you see them?
4. Where are they going?
When someone calls a contact and you decide you can help, acknowledge the call to let them know you're going to help. if you want to get fancy you can tell them how you're going to help and your time on target. If no one speaks up to help that contact, maybe you should go help out...
Basic Squad Movement - how to stick with the squad and how to call out contacts using relative positions. This can get difficult. Contact calls using relative position of the squad requires that the squad is sticking close together. Maps like Op Locker and Metro make this a little easier as there aren't many lanes of movement.
When to Run & Gun vs When to Peek
Show the differences in
1. Tap Fire = Long Range
2. Burst Fire = Medium Range
3. Mag Dump = holy shit they are right on top of me kill them all now!
Weapon How-to's: XM-25, SRAW and Javelin (if it still works)
Levolutions! We'll take a verbal poll and see which levolutions are unkown.
instructor Critiques - I'd like to hear from everyone what they thought of the class and to help improve it.

I'll be honest, it's been a couple of years since I've taught any kind of class and I'm no doubt rusty. Some of the tactics and behaviors may not be effective or efficient. If you've got an idea on how to do something share it! The more questions you ask, the better we can engage with each other.

3rdRcn · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:11 am Post subject:

Us cross dressers don't mind being one of the girls ya know. Very Happy

NTolerance · Administrator Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 1044

NTolerance · Administrator Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 1044

Let's add unlocks to the agenda. I feel like some folks haven't unlocked the best "unlock tree" for their playstyle. We should also go over kit management so that we're using the best loadout for a given situation.

Super Wabbit · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:49 pm Post subject:

3 of you have responded so far. Anyone else?

Dynamite Dan · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:52 pm Post subject:

I sent you a PM regarding this.

Super Wabbit · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject:

Kapak · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:52 pm Post subject:

I did find today I don't really know when to use field upgrades. It's pretty much self explanatory, but I dont know when to use it. This could be good training session.
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3rdRcn · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:03 am Post subject:

Will be getting some much needed shoulder surgery at the end of the month and will have a couple weeks to spend on getting through the learning curve of BF4 if all works out well.

The little bit of time I get to spend on it the more I enjoy it and the gameplay.

Super Wabbit · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:32 am Post subject:

Sorry to hear about the shoulder but am happy to hear you'll be playing with us. This gives me an opportunity to setup our training server with Test Range map...